CLPNA Writes Rebuttal Letter to the Editor

(updated April 20, 2010)
Linda Stanger, Executive Director of the CLPNA recently wrote a Letter to the Editor of the Edmonton Journal. She rebutted some misinformation published in an earlier letter and clarified the roles and responsibilities of LPNs in delivering high quality professional nursing care. Other letters on the same issue were also published in the newspaper on April 4, 9 and 18, 2010.   “Read on…” for the links.

UPDATED (April 20, 2010):

38 Responses to “CLPNA Writes Rebuttal Letter to the Editor”

  1. I am sitting here after a hard, hard day of work and I am saddened at what I read. In my 10 years as an LPN what really surprises me to this day it is not just the LPN’s, RN’s that give quality care but a combination of a whole team made up of PCA’s, dietary, housekeeping, unit clerk’s and I could probably go on and on. Without these team members there would be no quality care, Jennah wake up and change your attitude because we are only a small part of the picture and nurses who have blinds on and attitudes like yours makes the system what it is” an unpleasant work enviroment”.I have had the pleasure of learning some new techniques with RN’s,LPN’s because some believe we are a team and want to work in unison and I have worked with some that think just like you and that is really sad. Quality care means putting your attitude aside and working together as a team member. Jennah open your eyes your attitude needs adjusting.

  2. A few years ago I was in my LPN program and instructor told me to never feel embarrassed or guilty about being a LPN, at the time I had no idea why I ever would. Well after a few years of working in a psychiatry unit with minimal LPNS and 90% senior diploma RNs I can honestly say I am considering a career change. The mentality towards LPNS is like the article that Jennah wrote in the Edmonton paper and that will just feed the fire. I honestly can say I work very hard on the unit, I was taught how to work in a team and the importance, I am accountable for the care i provide but I can say about 80% of the Rns on the unit I work do not do their job, I have seen them cover med errors and worse. But still I am looked down upon because I am a LPN. I would really like the competency for working in mental health clarified, it can be interpreted in too many ways and many of the Rn’s are hung up on the fact that LPN’s do not work with patients who are unstable, the RN’s say all the psychiatric patients are unstable so LPNs do not belong in psychiatry.

  3. I really appreciate that our association is trying to represent us and educate the public. I would rather that, then, us not defending ourselves. Thank-you CLPNA for your efforts.
    I have nursed for 30 years and gone throughout that time from yes I can perform a task mentality to no you can’t perform the task. The bottom line was it depended on how insecure the RN/BSCN in charge was or how lazy. I do not wish to go back to those days again.
    I work with older nurses who have had trouble adjusting. They have slowly over come old thinking after 4 years of working at my side. I think they may even now feel that it is the person not the education that matters. Like myself they see: new grades, other older nurses, people from all disciplines that have no work ethics, make errors and are not conscientious.
    I understand the RN/BSCN having problems adjusting because they were the “gate keepers” who ran the system including the doctors. Their role is changing and they have lost the position of control. They now have to learn to step back to work with others in a multidisciplinary approach. I have empathy for them because it is not easy to give up control.
    I hope before I retire to be accepted as a team member who has input and valued. I feel it will take some time before the roles blend and work together as a team utilizing all disciplines in the health care

  4. I couldn’t believe how much arrogance this person has. She hasn’t even started her profession yet and she has already placed herslf on a pedestal! Wait until you have started your career then you will find out that: Respect is not given, it is earned.

  5. I have worked as a LPN-ORT for 37 years and after reading the article in the Edmonton Journal that the young lady Jennah wrote all I could think of was “from the mouth of Babes”. This young lady has not even entered the work force yet and she feels that she is more educated and more vavuable than any one else in the Health care field. Thank god that not all RN feel the way that she does. What I fealt bad about was she feels that if you only have your RN’S and not a BSC NURSING DEGREE you still are not at the same level as her. What this young lady needs to do is get into the work force and realize that the best nurses are not what title they put behind their name but what kind of person and worker they are. How is Health care going to be in the future if this is the attitude of the newest grads.

  6. I am so glad that the CLPNA is speaking out in defence of LPN credentials. It is not a new phenomenon that University educated GNs believe they have superior knowledge but when they are thrown onto an acute care unit and have to contend with laboring moms, ortho/ plastics surgs., as all forms of medical pts., their attitude soon changes. Some have burst into tears but all end up turning to the experienced LPNs for assistance. They soon learn that their university training did not prepare them for the challenges of a busy unit and without teamwork the floor does not function. Maybe there should be more emphasis on teamwork, skills and communication and less on statistics in Univ.

  7. I just read the article posted by the third year nursing student. Although at first the article angered me I had to chuckle to myself as well. I work in acute care and we practice to full scope, we have BScN nursing students on our unit during various stages of their training and the funny thing is they think that every nurse on the floor is an RN. So one must wonder if your degree is so much better than my diploma or even the diploma of an RN then how is it that you can not spot us from a mile away? Perhaps we should start wearing large scarlet letters LPN because otherwise one is hard pressed to distinguish between our knowledge, skills, abilities and professionalism than any other NURSE and after all that is what we are is NURSES when your patient is ill trust me the last thing they ask for is your degree.

  8. This letter to the Editor is written by a RN student who has not yet experienced the aspect of working with a team .The LPN is the first person in contact with the patient and usually the first to access the patient and then direct the concerns to the RN.A great response from all concerned and yes it does make my blood boil. I have been a LPN for 25 years and have worked in all fields including Emergency and as a team member I am very proud to be an LPN, and have earned great respect from RN.s and LPn,s alike. Jennah I hope that you have half of the experiences that I have had and I also hope that you can be as proud as I am of my proffession. From an LPN who has enjoyed all the years I have been a team Member,GOOD LUCK!
    Vel Griffiths l
    LPN

  9. I am an LPN in a managment position. I have been an LPN for 11 years and have worked in various units in the actue care sector. I have seen more cases of “Graditis”, particularly with the 3rd year RN students who are sent to me for preceptorship then and now. It seems to me that this attitude is being engrained into these individuals during their training. However, LPNs……….please take heart in knowing that as soon as these “new” nurses are out in the real world the “GRADITIS” soon disappates, as their book smart superiority is crumbled the moment they realize they know NOTHING……………

  10. All I can say after being, and proudly so, in the LPN profession for 38 years is Jennah dear you have a whole lot of learning to do….as a student remember to ask your questions, but at the same time ask whom you are turning to……IT MIGHT BE AN LPN who is helping to preceptor you on the unit!!!!! Where I work it is TEAM work, everyone gets along and works well together….this Jennah you will have to learn…..I sure hope for your sake that your comments are all forgotten by the time you graduate….because I am sure that someone somewhere will possibly remember your letter…..you really should apologize to the entire nursing profession….because yes Jennah we ARE professionals!

  11. Thanks to Linda for her professional letter in supporting our roles as LPNs. What an ignorant letter by the 3rd year student–those of us who have worked forever see many RN’s and wonder why they are there too?????
    Great to know we have such a strong advocate for us.

    Nancy Mawhinney

  12. After reading Jennahs letter I was not mad but very upset. I have been an LPN for just about a year now, I work in a small rural hospital and I have to prove myself everyday to people like Jennah. I have to fight to be able to work to my full scope due to resistance from co-workers like Jennah. I am pround of the profession that I CHOOSE to be in and I think that I and all LPNs alike are very skilled, professional, exceptional nurses. It made me angry for her to think and state that our education is not as good as hers, yes granted we only go to school for 2 years but our studies are just as important and challanging and intensive as hers. I think that we need to work as a team, and leave those 2-3 letters after our names and remember that we are there for the patient and the care we give them. I hope certain people change their attitudes once they get out in real world.

  13. Thank you Linda for your insight, support, and professionalism in your response to Jennah Campbell’s letter. LPN’s are a vital, integral part of the nursing care team, and are often “dismissed” as being less than equal by the new graduates with the “I hold a four year degree, thus I am your superior attitude!” I have personally experienced this attitude exuded by the new graduate, and wonder what is being taught in the classrooms of these Universities; this behavior is fostered somewhere, and it needs to stop!! A degree does not make a Nurse; experience, knowledge, critical thinking, collaborative nursing, life experience, along with a multitude of attributes makes a valuable member of the health care team….a Nurse!
    Remember we all became Nurses for the same reasons! Time to stop this segregation once and for all; negativity only breeds negativity! Once Jennah Campbell and her fellow classmates become front-line health care providers and discover how they will depend and rely on ALL members of the Health Care Team to provide them with mentoring, guidance, and invaluable Nursing skills that will build on their knowledge base; only then will reality become a humbling realization of how misrepresented they really were!
    In these ever turbulent times of change, lets not lose sight of our collective goal….the patient! Respectfully submitted,

  14. Thank you for writing the Rebuttal!!
    I believe that the public has no clue what we as LPN’s actually do. I hope that in the future CLPNA does more to raise awareness. We play a vital role in health care Albertan’s need to know.

  15. By-golly-gosh how have we ever managed to preform our professional health care duties without Jennah C and her buddies? I guess now that “their” here nobodys ever going to have complications again. Hope you survive your 1st screw-up darlin’!

  16. Hope you got a REALLY good mark on the political science part of your BSc of what ever it is your taking.Cause although the LPN program that I was enrolled in dealt with the real world of nursing, like really caring for my patients and thinking out side of the box, and common sense,ie the new catch phrase for “Critical Thinking” I spent my meager time learning how to comfort the dying and their families,sharing the joy and yes sometimes the sadness of a newborn baby.Taking the time to spend with my patients when they are afriad,sad, in pain or lonley. NOT plotting grafts and writing letters to the newspaper to try to get a good mark. We that so graciously learned all the things I evidently wasted my time learning,will for sure remember your name and unflattering comments, but because we learned caring and acceptance, hopefully no one will hold it against you when you come to plot graphs and statistics and ask for our help with dealing with your patients. Because we will be caring for YOUR patients just as we would care for OUR patients,just like YOU would wish to be cared for someday. Pat Bannister, Graduate of Bow Valley College class of 1992

  17. I can’t believe that this gal believes she is so superior. I have been a LPN for 11+ years and for the last 3 I have been working on my bachelors degree. I decided to go back to school because I want to work in an area that is not available to me as a LPN.
    I think working as a LPN made me a caring and a hard working nurse. When I went on my first clinical we were told not to come straight out and admitt that we were LPN’s.
    I think it would be nice if all nurses needed to be LPNs first than move up to their degree. I believe this would allow for better team work and a more positive attitude amoung the healthcare team.

  18. I agree that all body’s interested in nursing should first become LPN’s,I believe that the true realization of what LPN’s do would then be seen and there would be more respect to be had… Someone was wondering “why are RNs even there?” We need RNs here right? I belive that jealousy is the biggest issue with some RNs, and as far as the student…jenny…:) she really is showing envy because she is still in school, which turns out to be a good thing as she needs that extra to hopefully be professional in being health care proveder.

  19. Unfortunately, it is a sad day when nurses in general wish for another nurse in training to fail in her career endevours due to her misguided beliefs and it is really a sad sad day when a nurse in training wishes to enter her future nursing career without a team and their unmeasureable support! Patient centered care (no matter what setting you’re in, Acute, LTC, Private etc) is not an independent job description but requires a multi disclipinary team of health care professionals as most of us know. The letter has been written, her beliefs were expressed, and now it is up to all healthcare professionals to ‘re-teach’ her and hopefully she understands that we are here for each other because working 24/7 by yourself just won’t happen!!!

  20. I hate to say but this gal has no clue as to what we do as LPN’s and our scope practice. I’m not putting RN’s down but there have been several times when they are clueless about doing a procedure as simple as a dressing change and have to come to me or another LPN.

    The sad thing is that we should be working as a team to provide exceptional care for patients. It seems some colleges out there are teaching there students the opposite of that……as to she/he is a LPN thefore she/he is not competent enough and we are RN’s therefore we can do everything better because we have 4 years of education…..NOT TRUE. Jennah is sadly mistaken…..with someone who has no expereince she shouldn’t say anything until she goes into the work world…… It will be a reality call for her.

  21. Re: letter of rebuttal

    Linda, well done! As a collective group, we are so fortunate to have such outstanding advocacy and leadership. It is time for the “us and them” attitudes that prevail within our nursing profession to become a thing of the past. We must continue to practice professionalism and competency and support one another within the workplace, RN and LPN alike, as skilled members of the healthcare team. Modelling this team approach will lead to a place of mutual respect, whereby all new nursing grads will see the nursing team as “us”, all inclusive, RN and LPN, with our respective professional roles and scopes of practice.

  22. What is it with this grandiose idea that seperates the skill and professionalism of the RN in relationship to us the LPN….I have been in positions where I provide the answer to clinical questions that some new RNs cannot answer and thats fine as I believe we share and care about the outcome and not our own individual value. We may get paid much less however we dont care or work at an inferior level at all. The best nurses are those that work together for the best outcome of their client regardless of their title.
    The human condition is such that behind the RN or LPN title there is a person who’s personality and skill level is different and everyone should be judged on their competance, and not be thought as a better level of outcome based on their title alone. there are amazing faces as well as not so much, behind each one of those nursing credentials, not everyone is doing a great job and not everyone is doing a bad job, I continue to hold my title and skill level with pride and professional regard.

  23. Re: letter of rebuttal

    Linda, well done! As a collective group, we are so fortunate to have such outstanding advocacy and leadership. It is time for the “us and them” attitudes that prevail within our nursing profession to become a thing of the past. We must continue to practice professionalism and competency and support one another within the workplace, RN and LPN alike, as skilled members of the healthcare team. Modelling this team approach will lead to a place of mutual respect, whereby all new nursing grads will see the nursing team as “us”, all inclusive, RN and LPN, with our respective professional roles and scopes of practice.

  24. Are you kidding me? Read the letter again …first off i am sure that was a class project and not a personal opinion. This is what is wrong with media…everything gets taken out of context, wow what a surprise. I used to be an LPN and i agree with that letter and never took it with sour grapes. You people are ungrateful and the fact you are firing personal shots at her is pathetic beyond belief! It’s just too bad i can’t fire shots at any of you because my comments wouldn’t get submitted in here if i said what i think of all of you! I know that an RN degree would be gruelling i am sure, the likes of which most of of you wouldn’t have the brains to complete…

  25. As you all should have already realized especially as working in the health care field for so long, professionalism means a lot more than you are belittling it to. Jennah Campbell wrote a letter with her “class” not just herself in direction towards the government. This has nothing to do with your own personal experiences with others or opinions. This letter was strictly a factual basis is rebuttal to government movements and decisions not against the hard work and commitment that LPN’s bring to the health care field. If you really think you are all a team then it is high time you started acting as one, not just the LPN’s forming together to backlash at a student. This is someone who admires all the work that the health occupations perform and is committing herself towards a career of this, and for what? So she can not stand up for anything she believes in? If this is the sort of atmosphere that all students have to look forward to working in then I would highly suggest that all schools post your inconsiderate and quite frankly immature comments. These students are the future just remember that when you are 80 years old in the hospital relying on their compassion and expertise. This is regardless whether it is a HCA, PCA, LPN, RN or RPN. You are suppose to respect each other as people, maybe this is why the educational system had to implement a “compassionate care” course into the health care field education, because many of you obviously need it if this is the way you treat eachother!

  26. First of all – I’m not sure if anyone, in the above context, actually read Jennah’s letter. The letter simply states the facts about a RN’s job title. I am sure that you, LPN’s, would not hesitate to play up the positives about your own job descriptions if it was put under scrutiny. Why such defensive responses? This “attack” is unnecessary and unfounded. Not anywhere in the letter did the writers make any personal assumptions or bring personal opinion into play – if that is what was asked I am positive that the letter would of sounded different. Health care professionals know the true meaning of teamwork, as I read some of the above comments, I see that some lack this concept. It surprises me how some can rant and rave about some factual points one makes and in the meanwhile do the very thing they are accusing these students of. Maybe you need to be more confident in your job and then you will not attack students for sticking up for their hard work and achievements.

    I challenge you to actually read the letter without your preconceived concepts derived from gossip. Maybe then you can form an informed opinion that actually means something.

  27. I have read both the original letter and the numerous replies. I feel I must point out a cause of the feeling between the ranks. I am proud to be an LPN and for a time I bought into all the ‘RN’s are better’ stuff. I even tried the RN program and quit within weeks. We were greeted on the first day with “you enter the program as LPN’s and you leave as professionals”. When I spoke to the speaker privately and told her we already were professionals, she snorted and said, “no you’re not.” Our first couple of assignments were about the magical transition from LPN to “professional nurse”. We had guest speakers telling us how much more fulfilled they were now they had shed the LPN stigma and became a ‘real nurse’. When trying to enter the program, I was told that none of my ten + years experience counted for even one day of the program because “you’re not really nursing”. The list of lunacy goes on and on. After choking on this hogwash for a while I realized a few things. 1. I’m really good at what I do. 2. I have no reason to be ashamed for my qualifications. 3. Anyone that looks down on me because I’m an LPN clearly has no idea what I do. The best day of my career came when I told the Edmonton college (that shall remain nameless) to shove it and went back to work – happily. Remember, for many years, there were no such thing as BScN’s and we managed just fine. I also think their attitudes are not formed by education, it is taught to them. Perhaps the people that need an attitude adjustment are the instructors.

  28. First of all: I am pretty sure that this whole issue has been distorted to the point where it is now a big ‘ol fight and I’m also sure that nobody actually knows what they’re fighting for.

    This is not about some student who has not yet learned the value of teamwork and respecting other proffessionals, (because we ARE ALL professionals). It is about EVERYBODY learning that quality nursing care only comes when we can get along and portray a strong and, more importantly, UNITED front to our patients/rsidents/clients.

    What LPNs want more than anything is to be respected for what we bring to the table not what we do or don’t do better than anybody else.

    I agree that student RNs have a tendancy to look down their noses at LPNs on the floor and also that this is stemming from their instructors. I KNOW this from experience and it is humiliating to be degraded in front of pattients and families. To be yelled at and introduced as “just the LPN” to the patients or pushed aside during a skill well within my scope so that an RN may feel empowered.

    Having said that I also know many RNs who are wonderful to work with. As well, I know many LPNs who have gone on power trips to demonstrate their infinate superiority/seniority. Either way these people need a lesson in teamwork, it happens to everybody and it is called BURNOUT.

    If you can’t take the heat, get out of the fire!

    The LPN scope is rapidly changing and progressing, I have had RN buddies on the floor who have told me “stop working so hard, you really don’t get paid enough to do more than me.” and while it was said in a humerous light, it really made me think: How fair is this, REALLY? To anybody? LPNs are getting paid less with less training and expected to do more. While there are those who have the brain to step up, some do not and THIS, my friends is not safe. HOWEVER, the same goes for RNs. Some people just do not have the brains for critical thinking.

    What needs to happen is a CLEAR definition of the roles of ALL professionals (this includes the NAs). Nobody knows what the other is capable of and the scope is so different from unit to unit that it makes for a very difficult transition for EVERYBODY. This is not a battle of the nurses, but a chance for all to grow and learn. And those not willing SHOULD find another career.

    Jennah, your letter was, for the most part, accurate. I am sure that it simply stirred up feelings of hatred and resentment between the professions. Please take this opportunity to learn about your colleagues and respect them for experience counts for more than book smarts. I am sure that you will discover this with your first blue-baby, post-partum hemmorhage, post-operative complication, or anaphylactic reaction.

    I have only been an LPN for 7 months and I have seen all of these things, I work on 3 very different units in the same week and it still surprises me how little we know about eachothers specialties, experiences and TRUE knowledge.

    Please, to everybody who is harvesting hatred in this uncertain time, take this opportunity to LEARN to EMBRACE the changes that ARE comming!

  29. I was under the impression this survey was simply a student report that was somehow turned over to the media. What surprises me is the RN’s are still being taught the hiarchy mentality in nursing. As an LPN working in an emergency department, the encouragment and support from my manager,the clinical development staff member and a few nurses that have been around as long as or longer than me (24 years)is the reason I can continue to work with the “new breed of RN’s” that has busted the team nursing care approach that worked well for decades before the teaching of university level students surfaced about 15 years ago. For those students, some hands on experience instead of going from reading books to teaching books would probably bring the whole sector of nursing skills and abilities to a new level of tolerance and understanding. Some things you cannot learn from books – and that is hands on experience

  30. Hmmmm, this is a quandry……I was an LPN, for 10 years, and an Orthotech for a few years as well. I’m not going to bore you all with my personal ideas of Jennah, or Mandy for that matter. I’m not an ignorant person, and rebutting an opinion with personal attacks doesn’t make any LPN sound intelligent. However, I will say this: It seems to me that there are RN’s out there, who actually think that LPN’s set out to acquire an education, and work in the nursing field, simply to destroy the RN livlihood. I will emphatically tell you now, this is not the case. I feel for the RN who feels threatened by the LPN numbers increasing, I wish that there was a way to ease your mind, that we REALLY don’t want your job, we just want ours. LPN’s have been moved to the front line of nursing by someone else wielding the sword. It all comes down to the mighty dollar, every health region is run as a business. And what better way to make a few dollars, then by getting 2 nurses for the price of 1? LPN’s didn’t ask to be here, but here we are. In the past, there was a distinctive line drawn in the sand– LPN’s were good, and they certainly work hard, but the bulk of the responsibility was in the RN’s hands. Our payscales reflected who had more education, therefore more responsibilty. Now, the line has been erased, the title is now “nurse” on the unit, and the patient wouldn’t have a clue as to who is caring for them, unless they asked. The patients care hasn’t changed, the team nursing approach hasn’t changed, what’s changed, is the required increase in knowledge and responsibility, and yes, practice, that LPN’s have on the floor. It certainly would be nice to be valued based on our work ethic, instead of our education. I would never begrudge someone of their success in their title. But let’s all remember, that our education didn’t start when we started university/college, and it didn’t stop the day we graduated.

  31. Dear Jennah Campbell,

    Thank you for writing the letter to the editor and opening up this debate. I am proud to say that I have been an LPN for the last 4 years.

    In your letter you had mentioned “Registered nurses are the only profession in the health-care system that patients are in contact with 24 hours a day”. I completely disagree with your statement and I am sure you will see the real picture when you step into the work place. LPN’s work days, evenings & nights, have the same patient load as an RN, therefore RN’s are not the only profession that patients come across within a 24 hour period.

    You had also mention that “RNs are the early detectors of changes in patient condition”. In the past four years I have worked in Long term care, Assisted living and Occupational Health and Safety. I am currently caring for patients on a very busy acute care unit and I am the one DETECTING and REPORTING CHANGES IN PATIENTS’ conditions EVERY DAY!!!!!

    FYI “Patient safety is a registered nurse’s No. 1 priority”. HELLO OPEN YOUR EYES!!! “Patient safety is also Licensed Practical nurse’s No. 1 priority”. All other health-care providers including RN’s require patient feedback from LPN’s.

    Both RN’s & LPN’s play a very important role in providing quality care to the patient. I agree that RN’s have a 4 year degree as compared to LPN’s 2 year diploma, however the 2 year diploma for LPN’s is dedicated to patient safety, assessments, clinical and direct hands on care. In addition to the 2 year diploma, LPN’s require training and certification for speciality areas such as Management, Immunization, Dialysis, Intradermal, Foot care, Intravenous and etc.

    I invite all RN’s, other health care workers and people reading this post to visit http://www.clpna.com to educate themselves on LPN’s competencies and full scope of practice.

    Kunal
    Licensed Practical Nurse

  32. Hello to all fellow LPNs…..we meet all kinds, don’t we?
    I see everything in a much more compacted manner. It all boils down to this……
    How many Wayne Gretsky’s does a real team need? One! One very qualified, non-threatened RN. One that understands she can not do it all. Give me an RN like this and I’ll/we’ll have a great day. Give me Jennah and I’ll be considering retirement.
    Let little, and obviously young Jennah cut her teeth on a floor surrounded by LPNs. Let her earn their respect. You have to wonder how she did in her course of “Professional Growth and Development”! Or perhaps they have deleted this oh so obviously important course.
    The wages Registered Nurses haul in today are so high that Stephen Duckett has had no choice but to look at staffing ratios. Who can afford all those RNs? Certainly not Alberta Health and Wellness or it would be named Alberta Wealth and Wellness. Do we really need a lock out or can we learn from the National Hockey League? Fiscally, an increase in LPNs is a no-brainer.
    It all starts with the instructors. We all know what rolls down hill starts at the top. Personally, my registered nursing instructors were fabulous. Once asked what the difference was between the two designates they said the extra stick on the “R” that the “P” was missing.

  33. I feel sorry for her. She doesn’t know what she is saying. I agree with some of the people that have said that it is definatly something that the instructors have grilled into her. I good instructor will tell her students, whether they are RN’s LPN’s or HCA’s, that everyone is impotant to the team. My instructor told me that no matter what I know, someone will always know more. I find myself “shamed” out of wearing my LPN title, not by my amazing teacher but by my employer. I work in a team. It doesn’t matter what letters you wear behind your name.
    Debbie

  34. Wait a minute here- do you guys know this student????? For all you know she is a very hard working individual that values all members of the healthcare system. Again, and hopefully you might start to understand this, that their letter was taken directly from evidence based research that was conducted from Health and Wellness and posted on the CARNA website. This did not contain personal opinions – it is just unfortunate that it struck a cord in some.

    I have been a LPN for six years and have experienced working with all health professions. I am glad that I have not worked beside any of you who have posted distasteful comments. Now we all know we cannot please everyone, but this seems to be getting out of hand. Some of these comments are embarrassing to the LPN profession.

    Not too long ago someone, in the health profession, asked me if it was true if “nurses eat their young”? I was so offended by this statement because I felt, up to that point, that professionalism and kindness was all that I experienced. Well, unfortunately that is no longer true. This is what he was talking about. First hand I see judgement and ridicule beyond reason. Is this how we mentor and accept? Where are your values and morals? Stop harassing this young lady and forget it already because there are more important things to talk and gossip about.

  35. I have been an LPN for 30 + years. It seems like the RN-LPN mentality has not changed.
    It takes a team to provide the care that is required. Lets concentrate on providing the best care we can for patients and less time on what the initials are behind our name.

  36. After only being an LPN for 4 years, I am in the process of a complete career change. I honestly do not beleive that the LPN’s will ever get the credit we deserve. Our own governing body can be partly to blame as they do not do enough, in my opinion to let the rest of society know what we really do. It is the ignorance of people to automatically assume that unless you have an RN after your name, you are not competent enough to care for them. It is completely frustrating and embarrasing at times to have most of the people that we care for automatically think this way. But if you pay attention to the media and did not know any better, it is pretty easy to see why people think this way. All I can say in parting is I will always stand behind my fellow LPN’s and give them credit for sticking it out. I hope that in time we will get the credit and backing from our governing body that we deserve.

  37. I’m a bit surprise to see a student nurse belittling our profession as an LPN. She has not come to her actual world as healthcare team, she will realize what a embarrassment she made once she actually worked with other professionals. I’m proud to be an LPN, patients/resident doesn’t look at your title, as long as they get the best health/safe care, they will appreciate an LPN for the work they done. My first year of work was an acute care, I can’t forget the words some patients tell me “here’s my angel”, just by seeing an LPN, doing the best quality care for them, they don’t care if you are an LPN or an RN. I’m at long term care now, I can see the value of LPN in our facility, without the LPN’s skills some RN’s are disabled because they can’t function well without an LPN, each one of us is part of the team to give quality care for each one we look after.My employer values our presence, just make it sure when you “jenna” get a job you do your best and worked with the team of health professional, treating them as equal, or you’ll just feel sorry for yourself if you’re alone in your world.

  38. I’ve been in the LPN profession for over 30 years. From CNA to RNA to LPN.
    It would seem nothing really changes in the way people think. I have been told that LPN’s have no place on the nursing floor.
    Of course RN’s are proud of their education and strive to continue it.

    But it is the varing backgrounds and experience that we gain along the way that make all of us better nurses.
    We learn from each other. And as a team we make the best healthcare providers.
    I work with a great lot of RN’s we share our knowledge. We learn from each others experience and to me that is what nursing is ment to be.

    You have to forgive students. They are proud and sometimes lack vision.

    What is most important if I can not confer with other nursing staff on a unit because of attitude. Then the patient suffers.